I think for me I have regained my tolerance, being a JW makes you very prejudiced - whether it be over issues such as sexuality, religion, politics or morals. I hope that now I am back to the way I was before I was indoctrinated, I feel that everyone has a right to live the way they choose, as long as they are not hurting anyone. And who are we to judge and say that we know better? I used to hate being told who I could approve of and who I should look at with disgust - I like to make my own mind up and my own decisions, why should I be made to feel that my own judgement was lacking??
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how have YOU changed since leaving?
by idaho init's obvious that the sense of freedom is a dominant.
feeling among most persons here, but it would be .
interesting to hear in what way(s) you feel you .
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Monopoly for JWs and ExJWs?
by individuals wife ina board game especially for those with an interest in the workings of the organisation.... maybe one board for jws and one for exjws?.
heres a few ideas to start us off......... little houses = kingdom halls.
big hotels = assembly halls.
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How about it then? A board game especially for those with an interest in the workings of the organisation.... maybe one board for JWs and one for exJWs?
Heres a few ideas to start us off........
Little Houses = Kingdom Halls
Big Hotels = Assembly HallsChance cards = Personal Record Cards
Community Chest = Donation BoxesStreet Names = Branch Offices or Territories?
And perhaps a Get Out of Bethel Free Card??
And how about suggestions for Chance cards...
'You have won a beauty pageant... shame on you... go back 2 spaces'.
'You have been accepted into Bethel... go forward 3 spaces'.
'You missed your assignment... pay fine of $100'.
'You were caught in possesssion of Crisis of Conscience - Go directly to Jail, do not pass the bread and wine, do not collect your magazines'And what about when you land on a rival KH? Do you pay a hefty contibution to the world wide fund??
Any ideas for the little counters, and what would you use instead of a dice - cant have chance involved can we now??
Any more ideas??
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To Individual'sWife and anyone else...
by sf inhello individual's wife,.
i decide to make a new topic and get this out of the fredhall thread.... you said:.
"...would explain his lack of communication skills and bad grammar, and also his childish attitude...".
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individuals wife
Now I'm going to be childish.... and stick my tongue out at sf...
sf - I understand childish behaviour, after all I have 3 little darlings under the age of 11 myself. So I know when to make allowances for their misuse of words, their mixing up of grammar and their less than adult behaviour. I do not have a problem with children and the fact that they have not yet developed the capacity to interact with adults on their level.
What I do have a problem with is the manner in which Fredhall tends to talk to us, it strikes me as inappropriate and sadly lacking, I expect that sort of level of intelligence from children but not from those that profess to being adult and mix in adult circles discussing adult things.
By the way, I would never think that children were 'lacking', and I would certainly not label them, I treasure my children and value them for who they are, just children, adults in training!
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depression
by toddy inis it true statistically,j.w's suffer from depression far more than the rest of us?
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individuals wife
toddy - I would have to agree with your last comment, I noticed that a lot of people in my old congregation had suffered with depression at some time, many were even on medication. What ever happened to relying on Jehovah?! The ones in the congregation that were studying at the time I left all had problems of one kind or another, one was going through a divorce and was struggling, one was mentally ill, another was depressed because of family problems, yet another was a former paedophile, yes, honestly.
The hope and promises of the religion appeal to those who have not much hope anywhere else. It fills them with false expectations and puts dreams in their heads that cannot possibly come true. I know from experience that when JWs are out on the ministry and a depressed or needy person opens the door then they see it as a ripe opportunity to reel them in to their way of thinking. They see their vulnerabilities and play on them, it may come across as sincerity and a caring attitude but all that JW wants is a bible study, a chance to convert someone. Unfortunately if that person does become a member of the organisation he is merely swapping one set of problems for another, like jumping from the frying pan into the fire. And his initial problems may still remain.
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Something Silly for a Sunday Morning........
by individuals wife insomething silly for a sunday morning - which bible character would you say you are most like?
any rahabs out there this morning or how about jezebels?
or do you see yourself as an abraham or an enoch?.
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individuals wife
Something silly for a Sunday morning - which bible character would you say you are most like? Any Rahabs out there this morning or how about Jezebels? Or do you see yourself as an Abraham or an Enoch?
Or do you fancy yourself as a Nicodemus maybe?I like to think of myself as Thomas, I need proof, I dont believe unless I see things for myself... the sceptic.
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Tips for Moms.....Pt. 1
by BoozeRunner inhey, i thought these were cute!!!.
100 tips for moms .
mom's hint #001: cut off the crusts.. mom's hint #002: make real cocoa.
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individuals wife
Good grief... and you expect me to achieve all this in one single lifetime (maybe I need that eternity I was promised after all)
Can I add one or two more?
MOM'S HINT #101: Teach them the value of tolerance and to reject prejudice in any form...
MOM'S HINT #102: Its OK for them to get dirty, dirt washes off
MOM'S HINT #103: Its OK to eat Play Doh just the once, but only once..
MOM'S HINT #104: Never humiliate your kids by spitting on a tissue and washing their face in public
MOM'S HINT #105: Remember what it was like being made to kiss Granny when you didnt want to .... don't force it on your kids!
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Some Witnesses Enjoy Witchcraft!
by metatron ini guess i've just been naive.. i was surprized to find that some 'super loyal'.
witnesses i know have been practising witchcraft.. of course, they'd never call it that - it seems that.
when various illnesses arise you get out an assortment.
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individuals wife
Some Witnesses Enjoy Witchcraft... mmmm... do crystals count? I knew a sister in the congregation who swore by them for healing, always struck me as rather removed from what we were supposed to believe in, she would hang them up in her house, carry them around in her pocket and give them to her children to hold when they were ill. Odd.....
Anybody know anything about the healing qualities of crystals? Or is it just a load of old bunkum?
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individuals wife
FredHall - Maybe your personal copy is... but mine is in mint condition.
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individuals wife
Yes, I have....... why do you ask? Welcome to the board by the way!
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Never stop trying to get them out
by Free2Bme ini know there are people on this board who despite earnest efforts to reach the hearts of friends or family still in the wt org feel they have to give up or that they are flogging a dead horse.. someone very close to me is preparing herself to leave.
her heart has already left.
she finally sees the true colours of the organisation she has faithfully followed for over 30 years.. but it has not been easy or swift.
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Free - that is such an encouraging story, I am just so pleased for your friend that she has your support behind her, to leave the organistion with no back up can be very frightening, much like stepping off the edge of a very high cliff, it takes a lot of courage, a lot of conviction and a friend who knows what you are going through is definitely a big bonus.
You say that she is angry, upset, stubborn, depressed and hurt and has sleepless nights - I can identify with all those, except for perhaps stubborness, when I decided to leave I just started walking. I think above all things I felt deceived, and I think this feeling still remains with me to a certain extent. I would hope that all the other things have gradually worked their way out of my system.
Dont feel as though you have destroyed her dream, the dream was never real in the first place, all you have helped to do is remove the blindfold and steer her in the right direction, I know that she will one day be grateful to you.
I hope that she will one day come here and see for herself that she is not alone, there are many of us who have gone through the same situation and understand how raw the emotions are when you leave, yet there is life after the organisation, and that life can be pretty good!